Kambai Akau

Welcome to the Tyap Wikipedia!

Hello Kambai Akau, and let me officially welcome you to the Tyap Wikipedia! 🥳 Congratulations to you and all your fellow editors on your hard work so far!

As you understand, the wiki has now (finally) been created, and all the content has been imported here from the Incubator.

As with all new wikis, there are a few things that don't work quite correctly in the beginning. The ones I am aware of are:

• The statistics on Special:Statistics (and via magic words like {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}) are not correct yet.
• Connecting articles to Wikidata is not working as it should yet.
• The Visual Editor may not work correctly yet.

These problems should solve themselves within a few days – if more than a week passes and these problems still occur, please let me know, and I'll find out how they can be fixed.

And if there is anything else you need help with, you know where to find me! Congratulations again! Jon Harald Søby (a̱lyiat) 14:03, 16 Zwat Tswuon 2022 (WAT)

Thanks a million+ indeed, Jon! It's quite a lot of work for you too, I know. But it's always amazing to see a new life pop into existence. The Tyap Wikipedia is finally here! And it's here to stay because we'll strive to sustain it and energize it into meeting up with WMF's goals.

Of course, I know where to locate ya. 🤓 I'll let you know if the challenges persist.

Takk! Takk!! Takk!!! 😊 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 15:27, 16 Zwat Tswuon 2022 (WAT)

Delete template

Hello, I found this spam article Black White Promotion‎ but I don't know witch is the delete template. Adehertogh (a̱lyiat) 21:45, 10 Zwat A̱taa 2022 (WAT)

Greetings Adehertogh. A delete template has not yet been created. If it's something I can do, I would do so right away. Thanks for your vigilance. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 00:14, 11 Zwat A̱taa 2022 (WAT)

Hi, here it is: Ta‌̱mpi‌̱let:Ta̱mpi̱let ti̱n (Delete template). More word need for templates on this site. 🤔 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 00:30, 11 Zwat A̱taa 2022 (WAT)

Good luck

Good luck as admin! LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 11:56, 13 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Whoah! N gwai (Thanks)! I appreciate. 😊 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 22:12, 13 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Hello

Please delete pages in https://kcg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 13:54, 15 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Hi A‌̱tyunta̱m:LisafBia6531. I will as soon as I am chanced. Regards. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 14:18, 15 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Meanwhile, you can use Desktop mode or Advanced mode for page deletion or other admin actions. LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 14:25, 15 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

A‌̱tyunta̱m:LisafBia6531 -- Okay, great! No problems. I will experiment on those. 😊 Thanks! Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 20:47, 15 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Hi, please create a deletion policy page. LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 13:23, 27 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

A‌̱tyunta̱m:LisafBia6531 -- Hello. Done! But about the development of the page, if I am to develop it from afresh, it might take some time to do because I am quite occupied these days. If there are some other ways you can help me out like link(s) to sample pages in any language wikipedia, I would much appreciate! 😊 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 20:29, 27 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

Hi, we also need to specify how many days the request duration is for new admins. LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 20:15, 28 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

A‌̱tyunta̱m:LisafBia6531 -- Okay, awesome. And that should be done in the adminship page? Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 22:33, 28 Zwat A̱natat 2022 (WAT)

IP block exemption

Hi, can you grant me IP blocking exemption? Thanks. LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 15:45, 5 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

Greetings, LisafBia6531. Sorry for the late reply. I would if I learn how to, which I would go learn about for your sake asap. 😊 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 21:42, 5 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

Go to, Special:UserRights/LisafBia6531 select to IP block exemption and click the save button. LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 21:46, 5 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

@LisafBia6531. Okay, great! Thanks for this. In just a moment! Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 21:53, 5 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

@LisafBia6531. Done! In case you would be wondering what "A̱ yet a̱cucuk a̱tyujhyuk Wukipedia nTyap wa" means, please wonder no more; it means, "He/she is a competent Tyap Wikipedia Editor". 💪 I feel lucky for the support I receive from you. Thanks! Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 22:09, 5 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

Hello, can you protect the Main Page? LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 09:19, 6 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

@LisafBia6531 -- Done! Made it editable only by admins. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 17:12, 7 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

Hello, can you translate the pages and templates I created into tyap? LisafBia6531 (a̱lyiat) 17:29, 11 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

@LisafBia6531 -- Hi! Yeah, I can. But it might take quite some time to do so completely as I am not exactly stable at the moment.🥱 Happy Wikimania week! 🌚 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 22:46, 11 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2022 (WAT)

Planet names

Hello,

Are there names for the planets in Tyap? I assume there must be a name for Venus (or maybe two names), but I don't know about the others. I would like to add the planetary symbols to WT-kcg, like I did here for zwat, mam and swanta.

(Also the Tyap word for 'comet' -- the one that hangs in the sky for weeks, not the ones that flash by in a second.)

Thank you! Kwamikagami (a̱lyiat) 03:11, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Hi Kwamikagami.

There are not names of planets in Tyap, except if the English or Greek renditions are Tyapized, then yes, there are. Yeah, your assumption is right on Venus; "Venus" (the morning star) is "A̱na̱ndan" in Tyap.

Mercury = Makyuri

Venus = A̱na̱ndan

Earth = Swanta

Mars = Mat

Jupiter = Jupita

Neptune = Na̱ptun

Uranus = Yuranut

Saturn = Satun

It would be nice having these as articles in Tyap. Perhaps, when you create them, they'll be developed gradually. 😉

I really don't have an idea on the Tyap word for 'comet' but the translation could be rendered as "Komet".

Thanks a mil+, Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 03:53, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

I'm not qualified to create these articles on Tyap WP. All they would be is a photograph and the name. But I can at least define the symbols on Tyap WT. I would appreciate it if you would check my edits there -- I'm not even sure I have the right words for 'male' (Mars symbol) at wikt:♂ and 'female' (Venus symbol) at wikt:♀ -- e.g. does Tyap use the same or different words for male/female people and animals? Also 'synonyms', 'variant forms', 'related terms' -- I probably made errors with the headers (e.g. wikt:⛢, alternative symbol; wikt:☽, variant form). So, even there, what I can contribute is extremely limited. Kwamikagami (a̱lyiat) 04:00, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Hahaha. Sure, you are. But I can help you create them when day breaks. It's quite late in the night/early morning hours now (04:14 am). Sure, I would check on your edits. 'Male' in Tyap is "a̱sam" and 'female' is "a̱nap" -- this applies mainly to people. For animals, "male" is "a̱gbak" or "a̱ba" and female "sha̱p". 'Synonyms' is "tai", 'variant forms' is "ntangka̱i jhyang", 'related terms' is "swáng a̱lyiat a̱meang". Don't worry much about the errors, they would be corrected. 😊 Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 04:14, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Thanks!

Yes, I got 'synonym' was tai from checking random articles, but the others were harder, and I couldn't find 'antonym' (for male <-> female).

I'll create the articles here. But they're just the first line from Swanta with the symbol and the number tat changed. Kwamikagami (a̱lyiat) 05:02, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Whoa! You did a great job. Well done! 😊

"Antonym" is "A̱fi̱p" (plural Á̱fi̱p) -- for both male and female.

Yeah, I saw the articles you created. They're lovely. I would make adjustments where necessary, soon. N gwai oo! (Thanks!) Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 12:02, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Oh, and can the A̱tyap and Ba̱jju understand each-other's languages? Kwamikagami (a̱lyiat) 04:25, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

The A̱tyap and Ba̱jju are five-and-six in terms of closeness. Among every A̱tyap extended family, you must find a Ba̱jju relative in one way or the other. The rate of intermarriage between the two is very high.

Tyap uses an SVO sentence structure, while Jju uses an SOV (and I think sometimes an SVO - I haven't investigated much on this but I have an example:

I like her/him/it (Tyap: N cat nggu, Jju: N nu cat; where: "N" = I; "cat" /tʃad/ = like, love, want; and "nggu" or "nu" = him, her, it (meaning dependent on the noun being referred to).

For this syntactical irregularity, Jju tends to be confusing for a Tyap speaker, but I find a lot of Jju speakers getting along better with Tyap. I have not lived in core speaking areas of the two languages, but as a child, I could remember growing up in a small suburb founded by an Atyap man in the Kaduna, and two of his sons (both late by the late 1990s) married Bajju wives who spoke Tyap very well, but they do switch to Jju when talking and not everyone can understand well what they speak, but you would definitely make meaning with what they speak. So, I think (I am not sure) that Ba̱jju speak Tyap better than the A̱tyap speak Jju. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 12:30, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Yes, unidirectional intelligibility is not uncommon. Would you say the difference is comparable to those with e.g. Asholyio, Atakad and Agworok, or are the differences with Jju more pronounced?

I made up the word "a̱bapi̱lanet" to translate 'dwarf planet'/'planetoid' (= miniature planet), e.g. Pluto. Please let me know if that's a corruption of the language!

A Tyapized form of 'asteroid' and 'Vesta' would be useful. I tried creating a few others, e.g. Orka̱t for Orcus, but I'm just guessing.

I'll create an article for Pi̱luto, since we have good photographs; please move if that's not a good form of the name. Kwamikagami (a̱lyiat) 23:59, 14 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Hahaha. Amazing! You're already sounding like a Tyap speaker.

The word "a̱bapi̱lanet" for 'dwarf planet'/'planetoid' is very correct. When the prefix "a̱ba-" comes before any noun or adjective in Tyap, the size of that word gets minimized automatically.

A Tyapized form of 'asteroid' would be "a̱sta̱roid" and 'Vesta' would be "Va̱si̱ta. Ori̱kut would be for Orcus (Tyap words don't really begin with letter "o", but some loanwords like "ofit" for "office" begin with "o"). Your guesses aren't far away from the way the Tyap speakers pronounce, as pronunciation also vary from person to person even among Tyap speakers.

In terms of the difference between Tyap and the other dialects in the cluster, the difference aren't as much as with Jju. You hardly know someone is speaking Sholyio or Tyecharak until he/she begins to replacing some words ending with "-a" with "-e" like "na" as "ne" or those replacing "c/ch" words with "ts" like "cat/chat" for "tsat". Sholyio is spoken with same intonation as Tyap, but Fantswam and sounds like Gworok and has a lot in common with Jju. but changes Jju's "r" to "l" as other Tyap dialects. You naturally understand these other six dialects as a Tyap speaker (even though they may sound like mispronunciations of Tyap) and when you know the dynamics in these dialects, you get along easily! Historically, the Atakad and Bajju are brothers of same parents. So, there are elements of closeness in their tongues, but Takad (and its child dialect, Tyuku) has same SVO syntax with Tyap not Jju's SOV, hence, the ease to understand Takad as a Tyap Proper speaker. Jju's major issue is the syntax. Kinda like English and German. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 01:33, 15 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Doubt

@Kambai Akau What language wikipedia is this? i can't able to translate on google if i want to contribute on this wikipedia 178.128.81.87 13:29, 16 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

This is the Tyap Wikipedia. It is not available on Google Translate. Even if it is, it is highly discouraged to use Google Translate translations for Wikipedia translations. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 13:41, 16 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Why?

Hi, sorry for writing in English. Is this edit (Special:Diff/23314) a misclick? This page is a double redirect. —MdsShakil (a̱lyiat) 09:45, 20 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

No problem. Yeah, the reason is the to redirect misspelt searches for the article to the right one, and that happens to be one of those. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 00:55, 22 Zwat A̱ni̱nai 2023 (WAT)

Ngwai

Thank you so much for the translation of the article about Fula Christians in Tyap! We are pleased that you are part of Wiki for Minorities and we can work collaboratively to make visible all minorities in Nigeria and throughout Africa. The Tyap language has a lot of potential and you are doing a good job. Keep in that way! Greetings from South America. Igallards7 (a̱lyiat) 04:34, 22 Zwat Jhyiung 2024 (WAT)

Yok nfa̱k kyang bah! (My pleasure!) Igallards7. Working collaboratively sounds good to me. All minorities in Nigeria and Africa deserve to be made visible truly, because the Tyap language and the Atyap people are one of such and we would be happy to lend a helping hand to bring others like us to the open.

Thanks and warm regards from Africa. Kambai Akau (a̱lyiat) 13:22, 23 Zwat Jhyiung 2024 (WAT)